7A Proposal

[ChapDad]

Smaller schools want competitive balance and bigger schools don't wanna travel 300 miles in 7A for district games with each other. Lol! 🤷

And bigger schools in districts that are full of bigger schools can play against much smaller schools in a playoff run.

[92Tiger]

So coming way back to it....

I'm looking at the most recent cutoff football numbers --

6A: 249 schools (2225 and up)
5A: 251 schools (1300 to 2224)
4A: 193 schools (545 to 1299)
3A: 204 schools (250 to 544)
2A: 208 schools (105 to 249)

Is the future idea that we're basically going to draw 30 to 40-ish schools from each of these classifications make a new district?

It means you'd end up with something like...
7A: 207 schools
6A: 208 schools
5A: 168 schools
4A: 166 schools
3A: 176 schools
2A: 180 schools

Someone else can crunch the new cutoff math ....but for our 6A purposes, this hypothetical would raise the bottom boundary of the new 7A from 2225 to somewhere around 2425.

[JGTexasTough]

I guess that is why Austin, San Antonio and Corpus get by with their shenanigans in 5A.

As far as San Antonio, their really isn't shenanigans going on . Northside ISD is in the same position as Cy-Fair ISD with 12 HS all in 6A and have the room to build two more which will happen soon than later before the district is built out.

[Matt.Stepp]

https://twitter.com/Matt_Stepp817/status/1660270226758303745?t=y8h8SmaBcX7y5NBUso4EQQ&s=19

[Zero Star Recruit]

Will there still be the D1/D2 in 1A through 5A during the season and in playoffs and 6A during the season and based on school population playoffs 6A D1/D2 format like it is now?

[Matt.Stepp]

Will there still be the D1/D2 in 1A through 5A during the season and in playoffs and 6A during the season and based on school population playoffs 6A D1/D2 format like it is now?

Absolutely....might be more six team districts in 6A/5A early on but growth over time will slowly erode that...kind of like what happened when Class 5A was was added in 1980 (I think that was the year)

[arges]

Absolutely....might be more six team districts in 6A/5A early on but growth over time will slowly erode that...kind of like what happened when Class 5A was was added in 1980 (I think that was the year)

As long as there are NO zones. Back when integration hit, there were districts in Houston and Dallas that had 14-16 schools each. When the UIL expanded 4A (6A now) to 32 districts from 16, it came much palatable. Unfortunately, I graduated from Class 3A Gonzales where we in districts stretching down to Corpus Christi and later west to Del Rio. It took a while for 3A (now 4A) to grow and is still the problem. Not enough schools in this Class range.

[Matt.Stepp]

If we dont add 7A at some point it could come to the days of 14-16 team districts like back in the 70s

[arges]

As long as there are NO zones. Back when integration hit, there were districts in Houston and Dallas that had 14-16 schools each. When the UIL expanded 4A (6A now) to 32 districts from 16, it came much palatable. Unfortunately, I graduated from Class 3A Gonzales where we in districts stretching down to Corpus Christi and later west to Del Rio. It took a while for 3A (now 4A) to grow and is still the problem. Not enough schools in this Class range.

This is not recommended, been there over 50 years ago. You don't want to go there. Bring on 7A ASAP!

[92Tiger]

https://twitter.com/Matt_Stepp817/st...NBUso4EQQ&s=19

How much would this really "relieve" the schools there in the middle, when that's already a spread that doesn't have a ton of schools to begin with?

I'm trying to think how'd you cut up the divisions....and even if the new 4A had say 150-160 teams there, the spread would still end up something like 480 to 1100. And...ok...sure that's slightly better, but probably not for those schools currently in 3A that might get bumped up to 4A when you start redistributing the teams.

IOW, someone's going to be mad OR get mad no matter what the UIL does....lol!

[Matt.Stepp]

How much would this really "relieve" the schools there in the middle, when that's already a spread that doesn't have a ton of schools to begin with?

I'm trying to think how'd you cut up the divisions....and even if the new 4A had say 150-160 teams there, the spread would still end up something like 480 to 1100. And...ok...sure that's slightly better, but probably not for those schools currently in 3A that might get bumped up to 4A when you start redistributing the teams.

IOW, someone's going to be mad OR get mad no matter what the UIL does....lol!

I think the relief comes when you take out that top 10% or so of 4A-D1 and put them back into 5A....4A is used to a lot of four and five-team districts...so you could create a conference with 160 or so teams and still make it work with 80 or so in each division

There's only 22 football schools in 4A with enrollment between 1181-1299....you create just a little room in 5A and all of a sudden you've dropped your top end by over 100 kids...which is a huge difference in schools that size

[Zero Star Recruit]

I think the relief comes when you take out that top 10% or so of 4A-D1 and put them back into 5A....4A is used to a lot of four and five-team districts...so you could create a conference with 160 or so teams and still make it work with 80 or so in each division

There's only 22 football schools in 4A with enrollment between 1181-1299....you create just a little room in 5A and all of a sudden you've dropped your top end by over 100 kids...which is a huge difference in schools that size

Thanks for your detailed explanations Mr. Stepp!

[CapitalTiger]

So coming way back to it....

I'm looking at the most recent cutoff football numbers --

6A: 249 schools (2225 and up)
5A: 251 schools (1300 to 2224)
4A: 193 schools (545 to 1299)
3A: 204 schools (250 to 544)
2A: 208 schools (105 to 249)

Is the future idea that we're basically going to draw 30 to 40-ish schools from each of these classifications make a new district?

It means you'd end up with something like...
7A: 207 schools
6A: 208 schools
5A: 168 schools
4A: 166 schools
3A: 176 schools
2A: 180 schools

Someone else can crunch the new cutoff math ....but for our 6A purposes, this hypothetical would raise the bottom boundary of the new 7A from 2225 to somewhere around 2425.

I think it would start off as a smaller class 7A. Let's suppose we take 112 teams for 7A - that's an average of 7-team districts across the board.
By my reckoning, we are adding up to 12 new schools from the 2022 realignment to the 2026 realignment.

I am thinking we keep the bottom of 4A set, and distribute the teams from 4A to 7A differently ,while keeping 3A and below pretty constant. With that, I come up with:

New 7A: 112 Schools (2855+)
New 6A: 215 Schools (2055 to 2854)
New 5A: 218 Schools (1065 to 2054)
New 4A: 160 Schools (545 to 1064)

[hook em 22]

I think it would start off as a smaller class 7A. Let's suppose we take 112 teams for 7A - that's an average of 7-team districts across the board.
By my reckoning, we are adding up to 12 new schools from the 2022 realignment to the 2026 realignment.

I am thinking we keep the bottom of 4A set, and distribute the teams from 4A to 7A differently ,while keeping 3A and below pretty constant. With that, I come up with:

New 7A: 112 Schools (2855+)
New 6A: 215 Schools (2055 to 2854)
New 5A: 218 Schools (1065 to 2054)
New 4A: 160 Schools (545 to 1064)

What do you see for dists and regs in a 7A?

[HornsOverIthaca]

I guess that is why Austin, San Antonio and Corpus get by with their shenanigans in 5A.

Did somebody say shenanigans?